S2 06 Transforming Through Energy Work: Georgina Noel on EFT, Healing, and Authentic Power

Welcome to The Scrumptious Woman! Today, I’m joined by the absolutely scrumptious Georgina Noel, a master of energy work and EFT. Georgina is here to share her journey of transformation, how she discovered EFT after a personal loss, and how it became the foundation for her work in helping others heal and thrive. Let’s dive into this rich and heartfelt conversation about energy, healing, and stepping into your authentic power.

Episode Summary

In this inspiring episode, I sit down with Georgina Noel to explore her journey into energy work and EFT. Georgina opens up about how a deeply personal loss triggered her spiritual awakening and led her to discover EFT, a modality that felt like a homecoming. She shares how this work transformed her life and how she now uses it to help others release trauma, reprogram their subconscious, and step into their true essence.

We also discuss the importance of nervous system calibration, the role of aftercare in transformational work, and the beauty of holding space for others without trying to “fix” them. Georgina offers her insights on balancing rapid shifts with allowing time for deeper integration, and we reflect on the challenges of overgiving in the healing and coaching industries.

This episode is packed with laughter, wisdom, and practical takeaways for anyone on a journey of self-discovery, healing, or spiritual growth.

Key Takeaways

• The Power of EFT: Georgina explains how EFT became her foundational modality and how it can create rapid shifts in healing.
• Identity Shifts and Integration: Why calibrating your nervous system and allowing time for integration is essential after transformational work.
• Holding Space Without Overgiving: The importance of boundaries and self-nourishment in the healing and coaching industries.
• Aftercare in Transformation: How aftercare supports lasting change and prevents the “next high” cycle in personal growth.
• Embracing Authenticity: Georgina’s journey of stepping into her authentic power and how it inspires others to do the same.

Thank you for joining us for this scrumptious conversation with Georgina Noel! If you enjoyed this episode, please leave a review and share it with someone who might benefit. 

To dive deeper into Georgina’s work, check out her membership, Luna Vortex, connect with her on Instagram at @GeorginaNoelEFT where you will find all the links. You’ll also find plenty of insights and snippets of her life with her adorable sausage dog! 

Much love, and keep stepping into your essence!

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Transcript

[00:00:00] Juliette Karaman: Welcome to the Scrumptious Woman I have with me a beautiful scrumptious delicious, wonderful Georgina, who is a powerhouse. Now you're another six two, aren't you? Manifesting generator. So you and I met, gosh, what is it, almost three years ago, two and a bit years ago in a mastermind. 

[00:00:28] Georgina: To be honest, I don't, time has just gone.

[00:00:31] Juliette Karaman: Completely. And I've been in some of your containers, you've worked with me a little bit. And this is what I love about being in a mastermind together, being in a place where we actually just get to experience everyone's brilliance a little bit. It's oh, I'll have a little taste of that.

[00:00:48] Juliette Karaman: It's like going for. A beautiful taps where you just get to sample everyone a little bit and what are their gifts. And for me, it's just been an [00:01:00] absolute delight to be in your containers and to just hear your richness and your richness and life, your laughter, the way that you experience life.

[00:01:12] Juliette Karaman: And there's a lot of joy in that as well. So welcome. That was a long welcome. 

[00:01:18] Georgina: I'll take that. Can I just snip that out and just share it with people who wanna work with me and say, this is who I'm, because whenever anyone asks, so what do you do? I go, I dunno how to describe it, but you'll feel better after.

[00:01:30] Georgina: That's pretty much how it works. 

[00:01:33] Juliette Karaman: Isn't that funny? So we as our six twos and especially as the two lines, right? Human design and it's just, yeah. One of the things, one of the systems that you can look at and start like getting a download of your instruction book, because mine seems to be like bigger and bigger the more that I look at stuff.

[00:01:51] Juliette Karaman: But it's one of our gifts that we just do things so naturally that we're like. It's a deal. So people ask, what do you [00:02:00] do? And I.

[00:02:01] Georgina: I don't know. I know, and that's why I'm so glad that when, the we did the record a podcast already about a year and a half ago or something, and I was so ill and you were ill as well. And we were like we got through it and afterwards I was like, I didn't feel like that was really like I was particularly me today.

[00:02:20] Georgina: And so we said let's do it in the future when we're both being a little bit more zingy. And so here we are. But yeah, it's been a very interesting. Interesting journey. I feel like even after that conversation, so much has shifted and changed in both of our worlds. Yeah, that this is just an entirely different vibration that we get to bring.

[00:02:39] Georgina: So it's, yeah. I wanna ask you like, what's exciting you at the moment, I just wanna talk to you. I'm like, tell me everything. Tell me the things, 

[00:02:46] Juliette Karaman: and this is the beauty. That's where it does go. If the podcast, because I've given the podcast a bit of a pause, so you're. The first person of 2025 that I'm interviewing and I'm like, I'm really [00:03:00] excited about having the podcast come out again, for a year and four months or so.

[00:03:07] Juliette Karaman: It came out every week and in the beginning twice a week. So it just took a lot of dedication and at one point I could just feel myself go a little bit. Stale maybe is the word where it just felt like, oh, this is a bit efforting. Yeah, it's, I don't have that same passion as I did before, and now I'm like, yes, bring it on.

[00:03:27] Juliette Karaman: Bring on some incredible people. Let the world really receive those voice codes that we all carry, those energetic.

[00:03:38] Juliette Karaman: And by transmitting them out into the world. People already get that energetic imprint and they can move stuff in their bodies and in their psyche. Of course. 

[00:03:50] Georgina: Yeah. I was speaking about this just the other day. My, so for me, for anyone who's into human design, if you're not, don't worry about it. It's just another rabbit hole that you can fall into should you desire to like [00:04:00] woo-hoo Alice in Wonderland styles, and for me, my sacral connects to my throat, so my throat motor is driven by my sacral, and I very much.

[00:04:12] Georgina: Experience when I am, when I'm speaking to people. I was explaining it to someone the other day that it's almost like I feel in people's systems or I see, I feel, I don't even know how to explain how I experience it, but I experience it. There we go as almost like ripples of energy and like coding in people and it's like I can.

[00:04:33] Georgina: Something in me just senses where things are a bit tangled or knotted and I describe it like fascia. You know when you get a knot in your fascia in your body and then you go and have those kind of release massages and you feel the energy just go, woo. There was so much held in that one little point of tension physically in the body, and I feel that with the vocal codes that you are, that you're speaking about.

[00:04:57] Georgina: For me, I definitely know that my [00:05:00] voice and the transmission that it carries is a big part of what activates people. 

[00:05:04] Georgina: And it's a 

[00:05:04] Georgina: big part of, I almost feel it and experience it as my voice weaves into their system and it just gently massages out the knots. I'm sure anyone listening to this will be familiar with energy work, I'm sure.

[00:05:19] Georgina: And we all have had those experiences where you just walk into a room with someone and they're just. There's such a resonance in their energetic coding that you almost feel nauseous, because you can feel things moving already just by being in their presence. So it's always really fun when I see people just getting on a call with me and they're really burping and yawning and coughing.

[00:05:40] Georgina: I'm like, all right, let's go. That's not, 

[00:05:45] Juliette Karaman: and it's really interesting trying to explain that to people. They're like, oh, but I'm yawning and I'm so tired. I feel like I'm falling asleep. I'm like, perfect. And I have this like when I meet people in person. Even much more. Or like they wanna stay near me because they [00:06:00] feel so grounded.

[00:06:01] Juliette Karaman: And then, yeah, that means I go to a party and I've got all of a sudden 10 people around me that will just not let me go. And I'm like, yeah, no, 

[00:06:09] Georgina: You are fully, you are magnetic as fuck. Like for sure. And having been in your physical presence once and having lunch in the glorious sunshine that day, it was beautiful when we had lunch and we were like inside, but outside it was gorgeous.

[00:06:24] Georgina: And yeah, very. I can absolutely feel that. And I think you've become such a, because again, knowing each other a period of time and witnessing everything you journeyed in your own experience, which I won't go into because it's not my story to tell, but all the things that, even the tiny little fragments of that story that I got to witness 

[00:06:43] Georgina: and 

[00:06:43] Georgina: experiencing the richness of you just.

[00:06:48] Georgina: Amplify and amplify. The more and more you just kept, I don't know. I don't even know what you, I know some of what you were doing, dunno, all of it. I'm sure you were doing many magical things behind the scenes that no one knows about. But you could, it's [00:07:00] so palpable in women like you and I think you're such an inspiration, certainly to me, and I'm sure to.

[00:07:05] Georgina: So many other people that just you, just, you existing and being in the fullness of who you are is just so yummy, so delicious. I'm like, oh yeah, get me in that juice. 

[00:07:18] Juliette Karaman: And I think it's, thank you, first of all. Let me actually just welcome, receive that it receive. Yeah. This is one of the things I teach people.

[00:07:25] Juliette Karaman: Don't just walk past it, but actually take it, baby take it. Because that holds codes as well. So that now by me being able to receive that, it's oh, I stretch that capacity. Okay, next time I can receive even a bit more. But it's been interesting because. On the last day of the year or the 31st, I spent basically the whole day in bed creating.

[00:07:50] Juliette Karaman: Writing poems. I'm like, I never write poems. I'm like, where did this come from? I'm like, okay, I'm gonna trust it. So at one point, the girl, my, my [00:08:00] daughters were here and it was seven 30 and they're like, Hey, we've cooked dinner. Are we gonna do New Year's Eve and have the dinner that we discussed?

[00:08:08] Juliette Karaman: And I was like, I was still in pajamas. The thing that really what it was about, the poems is about the woman in my life, and it was actually my two daughters, my twin daughters. That really inspired the whole chapter on that. And also by being in the presence of other women who. Don't turn down their light.

[00:08:32] Juliette Karaman: Who, the other day I went and dropped off a packet that had been delivered here. And it was big. It was heavy. And this old lady, frail lady, opened the door and I just said, okay, can I just bring it in because it's heavy. She, oh, please. And then, she said, please stay for coffee, tea.

[00:08:47] Juliette Karaman: I don't remember what it was. And then something just said, yes. And then she. Her husband and a squirrel and just, yeah, you could just see the vivaciousness of [00:09:00]how she was, and then she got really embarrassed oh my God, I can't believe I talked about this, because this is one of her things, right?

[00:09:07] Juliette Karaman: People talk to me a lot and I was like, no, thank you for letting me see that part of you and just. When I left, she stood up a little bit straighter. There was just like such an elegance and such an energetic change in her. I'm like, if we can gift this, if our presence in the world can give this to other women and men around as well.

[00:09:33] Juliette Karaman: Because we wouldn't be anywhere. Without some beautiful men that help support. Absolutely. Yeah. Bring it on. Sometimes not get rid of men, that's for sure. Oh my God. But there's so much man bashing going on, right?

[00:09:47] Georgina: I wouldn't be able to cope. I'm like.

[00:09:50] Juliette Karaman: Yeah it's, I've just noticed, I think in the coaching world, there's a lot of man bashing going on, really? And that, and I'm like, whoa, I understand that [00:10:00] with feminism and we need it to be that vocal and now let's also appreciate these beautiful men and how they are showing up in the world. 

[00:10:11] Georgina: Yeah. I think for me, in any sixth line for me, in anything.

[00:10:16] Georgina: I'm always, this is a personal thing. I prefer to speak into what I desire to see, what I wanna feel, what I wanna witness, what I wanna experience. And at any point where I would, certainly when I was younger, for sure, absolutely would I have been judgmental, would I have maybe used someone else's experience to say, oh, that's not what I wanna do, I wanna be over here.

[00:10:41] Georgina: So that must mean they're wrong, but I think that the more you. Kind of journey on this spiritual, the spiritual path. Life is a spiritual path, but the more mindful you are around how you are growing and how you're evolving as a human, how you're expanding, and how your consciousness is [00:11:00] evolving.

[00:11:00] Georgina: You start to notice that there's no good, there's no bad, there's no right, there's no wrong. We can. And I know that's edgy for some people because they're gonna say, yeah, but what about this? And what about that? I get it. I get it. You don't have to agree with me. It's fine.

[00:11:15] Georgina: I'm not a politician. I'm not some guru who's telling you have to follow me. This is just how I experience life. So that's all I'm sharing. So where it's cancel her, she had an opinion. But that's fan darling. It's the, it's, but it's the witch hunt vibes, isn't it? And that's what we're that's where that comes from.

[00:11:33] Georgina: So I almost, I'm so mindful of that and how we don't know the nuances of everyone's story. We can't possibly know what. Elicit certain behavior or whatever from certain people. We just can't, we don't know everything about everyone. So I just like to focus on me and what is the frequency and the vibration, the mindset like, am [00:12:00] I being loving?

[00:12:00] Georgina: If I'm witnessing, war outside of me, I'm looking within and going, where am I at war with myself? And again, I know that's gonna piss some people off. And there we go. That's how we roll. But it is when I'm witnessing something, if I am activated by it in some way, I'm always turning that mirror back in to see where is that vibration being held within me?

[00:12:25] Georgina: What is it about this quote unquote toss toxic masculinity or whatever, but where am I upholding? That patriarchal or that toxic masculine programming in myself, where am I still conforming to those ideas and how can I defragment those and recode myself so that I am not feeding that narrative unconsciously.

[00:12:50] Georgina: And I think if more people did that, there would be less finger pointing and blaming and maybe we'd see a little bit more change in the world. But I'm aware that, we [00:13:00] are where we are. People are where they're, we're all o we're all good, we're all okay. There's no right, there's no wrong. This is just my preference, right?

[00:13:08] Juliette Karaman: Yeah. But it's such beautiful way that people really do mirror back where we're not free yet. And where we bump up against this, and we had beautiful example, was that. With my twin daughters who are here for Christmas and New Year, so they're here for 10, 10, 12 days. So it was a lot of cooking, a lot of baking, a lot of, all of a sudden 2 23 year olds who adore cooking and then making and want attention.

[00:13:35] Juliette Karaman: And one is an artist and quarter Palestinians. So her whole work is all about Palestine and she had a run in with my partner on it. And it's been building up. And then, she just said, every time I talk about Palestine, every time I talk about being a Muslim or my faith, he walks away and that really hurts.

[00:13:55] Juliette Karaman: So she made up this whole story, he fucking hates me, and the this and then that. And I was like, [00:14:00] whew, okay. So I'm like, here you are trying with your work. You're trying to just show a little piece of what your emotions are. You're having people become aware of what your perspective on Palestine and lebanon and Middle East is, and yet when someone doesn't agree or challenges your perspective. He then again, becomes sad in me. So at one point she was like, no, not to me. And I'm like, listen, you guys, I just put my intention there. I told him also. It's hey, you guys just need to work this out. And I put my intentions like they're gonna work it out.

[00:14:43] Juliette Karaman: I was on a call and to Noor, where my other twin and I were, we making dinner afterwards and they worked it out. We went to her room, worked it out, and afterwards it was like, oh, hadn't been aware of what [00:15:00] I'm doing. The other person is like, just ke, they keep, they just kept pressing each other's buttons and not being aware of it, and then projecting onto each other's you do this.

[00:15:11] Juliette Karaman: And I'm like, whoa, what's happening? And it needed a 20 minute conversation. 

[00:15:18] Georgina: Yeah. 

[00:15:19] Georgina: Yeah, and I'm aware that I come from a very privileged place, so I'm not pretending that I'm gonna have the same lived experience as someone who's in a different place than I am. I'm very aware of that, but I can only have the perception that I have.

[00:15:39] Georgina: I was put here as me with this life experience. For a reason. So to try and dunno. To try and, what's the word I'm looking for? Speak from any other viewpoint would be really incongruent actually. So we can only ever speak from where we [00:16:00] are. And isn't that okay? Isn't that, is that it be, I dunno, it's crazy.

[00:16:05] Georgina: It's. I definitely for a few years muted. I didn't really have, I didn't really talk about politics or anything like that in my work ever, because I don't know enough. I don't know enough to have a viewpoint that I feel like if I bring it forward, it's gonna add any value to the conversation honestly.

[00:16:28] Georgina: Yeah. So I would rather just say I don't. I don't have a viewpoint. I don't have an opinion on that specific situation. This is how I view life. Yeah. But I don't have enough information about that to give you something that's really gonna add value to this conversation. I wish I was thinking about it the other day.

[00:16:47] Georgina: I wish more people would be okay with the saying, the phrase. I don't have an opinion on that. 

[00:16:54] Juliette Karaman: Isn't it a brilliant thing? It's yeah, I don't have an opinion. 

[00:16:58] Georgina: Imagine that everyone thinks they have to have an [00:17:00] opinion on everything now, and it's I've never, I've not considered this in any depth, so please don't expect me to have a.

[00:17:07] Georgina: An opinion that's gonna move this conversation forward or add any value to this because I would just be making something up. I don't, and the beauty of that on the internet would just say, oh, I don't understand this and I either want to understand more, so I'm gonna go and look into it more. Or they would just say, I.

[00:17:24] Georgina: I don't have an opinion on that. And just move on. 

[00:17:26] Juliette Karaman: Yeah it's like in, in Dutch we said the far from my bed show, because it just doesn't affect you. Which, yeah. If you do want to get people passionate about it, that's perfect. Yes. Recognize that there might be like. You know what it's not my thing.

[00:17:42] Juliette Karaman: I'm not, so I'm not turned on or turned off, but, so just do your thing. Yeah. Tell me, how did you get into this whole energy work coaching? I don't know what to call it. 

[00:17:57] Georgina: Yeah. This. Hello. Hello. [00:18:00] How did I get into it? I I guess it was awakened in me. Really. It's, I know we've had a conversation about this, about various modalities, and when you learn them, it feels like, for me, it feels like I'm remembering them. Yeah. It doesn't necessarily feel like I'm being taught anything new. It feels like I am being reminded like, oh, I've, I came in knowing this and now this has been reawakened in me.

[00:18:20] Georgina: Yeah. So when it comes to energy work specifically. I lost a friend to suicide over a decade ago now. 

[00:18:29] Georgina: And after that was, I would say that was what some people might call the awakening. For me, that was like my spiritual awakening. That was many men, not just one dark night of the soul. There were many months of dark nights of the soul, and it manifested actually as physical pain.

[00:18:48] Georgina: I started to. Have back pain experience. Really bad, debilitating back pain to the point where I live on an island and we have like slipways little [00:19:00] slopes going into the sea and onto the beach, and they are not, they're not like mountains. They are very they're very slight inclines.

[00:19:07] Georgina: But I couldn't actually walk down because of the angle it put my hips at. Like I physically couldn't. Walk down the slip at one point. So I was really scared about what that meant for my mobility. And I went to a chiropractor and she just so happened to be an NLP and EFT practitioner as well as a chiropractor.

[00:19:31] Georgina: And she, which she asked me. So anything traumatic happened in your life in the last couple of years. And they went work is a bit stressful. Money. Your friend committed suicide. And she was like, oh, okay. I went, wind it back. So what was that? Yeah. Skim it, us fine.

[00:19:46] Georgina: Yeah. Whatever. Dealt with it. And then she just said look, if you are really interested in. Releasing yourself from this back pain, then you might like to try this. And at that [00:20:00] point I get goosebumps every time I talk about it because at that point, I, on some level had really given up and I was thinking. I am done with this level of emotional pain and I don't think I really wanna do this life thing anymore. So I will, I'll go and I'll have this session and I almost went into it with the mindset of once I've done this, then I really tried everything and I can just tap out. Then I can really say, I tried guys, I really tried to make life work for me.

[00:20:30] Georgina: Yeah.

[00:20:32] Georgina: And so I remember going and having my first session and one of the phrases that she had me tap on was that all the light went out in the world when he died. 'cause that's how it felt. Yeah. And so she had me do some work around that and we cleared that. And then I remember sit going into my car after I had this tiny little mini Cooper back in the day.

[00:20:58] Georgina: And I remember sitting in my [00:21:00] car. Looking in the wing 

[00:21:01] Georgina: mirror and just thinking, oh, I look different. And then I, and I 

[00:21:08] Georgina: felt different, but I couldn't, it was just intangible. I couldn't put my finger on what it was. And one of the things that had been really plaguing me and making life like living difficult was that I had.

[00:21:23] Georgina: I'd started to, and you know how trauma works, right? You start to see it everywhere. Everything becomes dangerous. Everything is a threat. And everyone in my mind was going to take their own lives, or they were all gonna die, and it just took the slightest look from someone, a slightest nuance in how they looked at me.

[00:21:45] Georgina: And I would translate that as, oh my God. They're gonna kill themselves. Yeah. And it was debilitating. It was, it was every single person I cared about. I was just so constantly on edge. And after this session, [00:22:00] I sat in the car and I just I think what I was feeling actually was a sense of peace looking back, but it was so unfamiliar to me back then, it was like, I didn't even recognize that it is peace.

[00:22:10] Georgina: And I looked at myself in the mirror and I said, okay. Like in my head, I remember thinking to myself, think everyone's gonna die. Think about people dying. Think about people committing suicide. Really try and think about it. And it was like, it would, the thought would come in, I could still think the thought, but it was like there was a trampoline in my head and it just bounced out.

[00:22:36] Georgina: There was no, it didn't get any purchase. It didn't get its hooks in me. It didn't make me feel anything. And it was in that moment where I was like. Oh, 

[00:22:45] Georgina: So yeah, so that was in that moment I just knew, I was like, wow, this is. This is some cool shit, man. And after that, I was so addicted to just trying it on everything.

[00:22:58] Georgina: And then when I realized I [00:23:00] could go and, I mean I worked at an art center. I wasn't in the healing industry or the coaching industry at all. Yeah. I'd always been someone that people came to and I'd always. I've been coaching people without being a coach. Takes through life.

[00:23:13] Georgina: Like people just come to us and that role model is always there. We just don't realize it's there. And it was just a really huge awakening in that moment of, okay. There's hope, and that was the first, that was the first time where, and I remember just feeling this so emotional because it was the first time I'd felt hope in such a long time, like my life had been devoid of, and I didn't even realize that it had been devoid of hope, because it's almost like I'd forgotten that existed.

[00:23:51] Georgina: And so that's why I got into this. 'cause I was like, I have to, I, it wasn't. There was no question in my mind that [00:24:00] I had found the thing that I was on this planet to do. And when I learned EFT specifically, that was the first modality that I learned, and it's still one of my faves. Even though the way I do it, obviously the way that I do it, people go, but how do you do that bit?

[00:24:14] Georgina: And I'm like I can't really teach you that. 'cause I don't really know. It just happens like you just gotta trust yourself. But that when I learned EFT, it felt like. EFT was my, not even my second language, it felt like my first language, it just felt ah. This is, this has been the missing piece for me for such a long time.

[00:24:33] Georgina: And then everything I've learned on top of that has just been a bonus. 

[00:24:36] Juliette Karaman: They've just, it's just been icing on the cake. And it's interesting because once you find that one modality, I love EFT and I've just built up so much from that. And yeah, I do. Occasionally I'll still do. E ft and especially like the little finger, the fingertips.

[00:24:51] Juliette Karaman: Yeah. The finger points are easy when you're like, oh, didn't realize, oh my God, I'm actually up. Yeah, that's, I'm an eight outta Oh, [00:25:00] okay. It's just calm myself down. So I do like another different anchor point as well. But one of my favorites is tap and bitch tapping.

[00:25:12] Georgina: That's it. Just tap and talk. Like people don't realize how simple it can be. And there's so many layers to it as a modality, because this is becoming an advert for EFT. There's so many layers to it because you can just tap and bitch tap and talk, tap and rant, whatever you wanna tap and cry, whatever.

[00:25:30] Georgina: And you can also use, I then. Feed it into matrix reprinting, and we go into the Morphic fields and we release your inner child from their trauma and then it completely re patents your subconscious. And it's so it's actually so easy to do this stuff, and I'm just like. How, and I say it all the time, I'm like, how do people live life without, how do they live without it?

[00:25:54] Georgina: I don't know how people do life. I guess they do it in pain and they do it by moaning a lot. I don't [00:26:00] know. Like how do you, 

[00:26:02] Juliette Karaman: because now, I mean you have. Got tons of modalities on board. I've got tons of modalities on board. And it's not that one is better than the other, but you just look at your toolbox and you see whatever client needs one and you try one and they're like, it's okay.

[00:26:16] Juliette Karaman: So you just switch mid process to something else that actually takes them a little bit deeper. Or even myself. And I look at people that don't do this and they're just like. No, I'm just willing myself to feel better. I'm doing some breathing and I just see them go. I'm like, great.

[00:26:35] Juliette Karaman: And this is where, I want to come and rescue people. So now I've learned not to do that 

[00:26:39] Georgina: so I was just thinking that. I was like, I am so far now from when I first began and it was like I've got a hammer and every problem is a nail. Like I'm gonna hit everyone in the face with EFT and it can solve all your problems and fix everyone on the planet.

[00:26:54] Georgina: And then that in itself, I remember actually I, when I went to, 'cause I'm an EFT [00:27:00] trainer as well, and when I met Carl, who is Carl Dawson, who created Matrix re imprinting and he runs the E-F-T-M-R-A and he obviously had to sign off on me being a trainer. And I remember him saying to me, huh. You've got responsibility stuff, haven't you?

[00:27:17] Georgina: I was like, no, whatcha talking? And I'd never really had anyone say that to me. This is years ago now, and ever since then I'm like, fuck he got me. Like he's so intuitive and he absolutely hit the nail on the head. I had a lot of, and I still probably do, there's always layers of that.

[00:27:37] Georgina: When you've, experienced narcissistic tendencies and you've experienced certain behaviors in your life, and you've got to a point where you've normalized certain behaviors, then you do more and more of this healing work, more of this growth and expansion work, and you start to realize, oh, that's not actually, that's not normal.

[00:27:57] Georgina: It's not normal to have to take that [00:28:00] person's feelings into account that much. Like it's nice to take people's feelings into account, but to the levels at which I was doing it, I was so tired. 

[00:28:09] Juliette Karaman: We don't realize how tiring it is, right. Growing up in this. Yeah. I didn't, you don't realize 

[00:28:16] Georgina: how, like, how vital you can feel.

[00:28:20] Georgina: Yeah, and I think it's almost like when people start doing this work. For me, when I started doing it, it was like I. It's like doing a detox. You don't know how good you feel until you've done a few weeks off of sugar and all the crap, and you're like, whoa, I feel like my glass has been cleaned and I am just this shiny new human.

[00:28:39] Georgina: And people are like, wow, you are glowing. What are you doing? You're like, I'm just not eating shit anymore, or whatever it is. But it is this. Spiritual, energetic, emotional, detoxing process that can feel really crunch and fucking hard when you're in the midst of it and you're in the throes of the detoxing.

[00:28:57] Georgina: But when I look at the person I, and I [00:29:00] know six lines have their three phases anyway, but when I look back at the person I was before I knew about this stuff, I don't recognize that person. I don't recognize that person. I love that person. I have compassion for them. I know it's me, but I no longer have those desires to run in and fix everybody.

[00:29:27] Georgina: And yeah, I just, to me, I have worked with enough people in my, 

[00:29:33] Georgina: in my career, 

[00:29:34] Georgina: if you will. I've worked with enough people now to fully understand. People have to say yes, they have to want it for themselves. And because I've always wanted it for myself, I couldn't understand why people didn't want it. I was like, but surely everyone wants to heal.

[00:29:53] Georgina: Don't. Everyone wants to understand themselves, don't they? No. And so you can't shake someone awake. You've just got [00:30:00] to. Walk away as it's like I'm here if and when you're ready. And I might I might be here when you are ready. I might have moved on to the next part of my journey, but Yeah.

[00:30:12] Juliette Karaman: Yeah. And that is, I think that is such a key point, right? To get to that point where it's listen, this is how you can work with me, and you just start. Taking a bit of a stronger stand. It's I cannot fix everyone. I cannot help anyone. And plus you're not broken. I'm not here to fix you. I can help you get back to Yeah, your essence and then the beauty, and it's up to you.

[00:30:38] Juliette Karaman: So 

[00:30:40] Georgina: that's, and I think so many people, particularly women, I would imagine, I'm just speculating there, wildly generalization. When we go into these healing or coaching industries. It does come from someplace of at some point wanting to fix someone from childhood, most likely [00:31:00]completely, right? So we then move through life thinking it's our job to do it, and then we find a love for it and it beco because it's this so purpose driven.

[00:31:08] Georgina: It's people wouldn't do this work if they didn't love it. It doesn't matter how much money you can make doing it, that's irrelevant. It doesn't matter if you can be a billionaire doing it, there's no fucking way you would do this work and do it well. If you weren't called to it in some way, and I think I would.

[00:31:27] Georgina: I would say a high percentage of the people who come into healing work, specifically any kind of healing work, would at some point experience a burnout or. Physical health issues from that overgiving. And that's almost like our second awakening, isn't it? It's oh, completely. Ah, okay. I've I've been through that part of that understanding that this is my path and now I'm going through this next level of awakening where I understand that.

[00:31:53] Georgina: I have to cherish and nourish and nurture this physical vessel and the human in [00:32:00] order to carry out the work that I'm on this planet to do. I can't expect, love and light and energy work to get me through. I've gotta eat some greens. Do you know what I mean? 

[00:32:10] Juliette Karaman: Eat some greens. Gotta, I gotta move the body.

[00:32:12] Juliette Karaman: And when the body's saying, don't move at all, sometimes you actually, and just allow that time. And this is where I think so many people are like, come on, we gotta do it quick. And it's like some things take a bit of time. Some things are very quick with EFT and the other healing stuff that we both do.

[00:32:31] Juliette Karaman: It can be massively rapid and you can shift people's trajectory like in no time. But at the same time, it's yeah, don't always expect that. 

[00:32:43] Georgina: And also that nervous system calibration to the shift that's occurred in the session or in the work that you do with someone that can require aftercare and some support after as well because it's.

[00:32:58] Georgina: Not everyone can [00:33:00] handle the, how rapid things shift and the identity shifts that have to happen to support what's just occurred, right? It's oh, I no longer have that pattern anymore. 

[00:33:11] Juliette Karaman: Who am I 

[00:33:12] Juliette Karaman: completely right? And this is like where I compare it with the BDSM scene that really we talk about what's gonna happen, what are your hard nos, what are your yeses, and what is your aftercare?

[00:33:26] Juliette Karaman: How do you, as the person receiving, and also as the person giving, as the person holding, how do we. Get the aftercare. And that is so important in coaching because otherwise it's just going for the other next high and the next high. And who else can give me that endorphin? Yeah, 

[00:33:45] Georgina: predictive.

[00:33:45] Georgina: Because you get that like exponential result or that growth and it's so fast and then it does, it can in, it can become a drug in itself for sure. 

[00:33:55] Juliette Karaman: Completely. Oh, this has been fun. Georgina, tell me darling, [00:34:00]where can people find you? What's going on in your world? 

[00:34:04] Georgina: The best place to find me is Instagram.

[00:34:06] Georgina: I'm pretty active on there, particularly on my stories always sharing me and my little sausage dog. So if you love sausage dogs, it's the place to be. Yeah, so I'm Georgina Noel, EFT, on Instagram, and I obviously have a mailing list if you are into emails and all of that good stuff. And probably the best place to dip a toe into my world is through my membership, which is called Luna Vortex.

[00:34:32] Georgina: So if you're interested in any of that, you can find all the information on my Instagram or you can just drop me a DM because I'm a chatty Kathy. So I'm quite happy to have a little chat with you on my dms. 

[00:34:43] Juliette Karaman: Love it. All of this will be in the show notes and please reach out to her because Georgina is an absolute master at what she does and a hella

[00:34:54] Juliette Karaman: thank being on.