The Scrumptious Woman

S2 02 Embracing Pleasure Through Rest and Safety with Genevieve Pleasure

• Juliette Karaman / Genevieve Pleasure • Season 2 • Episode 2

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Welcome, my loves, to The Scrumptious Woman Podcast! I’m Juliette Karaman, and I’m so delighted you’re here. Whether you’re a regular listener or joining us for the first time, you’re in for a truly scrumptious conversation. Each week, we dive into topics that nourish your body, mind, and soul, helping you embrace pleasure and presence in every aspect of your life.

Episode Summary
In this episode, I’m joined by the radiant Genevieve Pleasure, a beautiful mama-to-be once again, as we explore the deep connection between pleasure, rest, and feeling safe in our bodies. We chat about the importance of slowing down, tuning into your body’s needs, and allowing pleasure to unfold naturally—without the pressure of performance. Genevieve shares her own journey of moving away from a high-achiever mindset and embracing the power of rest as an essential part of self-pleasure. We discuss how pleasure can be found in the simplest of moments and why creating safety within ourselves is the key to experiencing deeper connection and intimacy.

Key Takeaways

  • Pleasure begins with safety—when you feel secure in your body, everything shifts.
  • Rest is an act of self-love and one of the most powerful forms of pleasure.
  • Slow down and allow pleasure to emerge naturally, rather than forcing it.
  • Everyday moments, from sipping coffee to taking a breath, can be infused with pleasure.
  • True intimacy comes from connection, not performance.

Resource Links:
Genevieve shares her Self-Pleasure Challenge, a beautifully accessible 10-day audio journey designed to help you bring pleasure into your daily life effortlessly. It's quick, easy, and perfect for anyone looking to reconnect with their body. You can find it at 0rgasmicarc.com (with a zero instead of an “O” to avoid those pesky censors!).

If this episode resonated with you, I’d love to hear your thoughts! Let me know what pleasure means to you and what areas you'd love to explore more. Listen now and join the conversation. 

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[00:00:00] Juliette Karaman: And with me I have a very scrumptious mama or mama to be again, Genevieve or Genevieve. Welcome to the scrumptious one. 

[00:00:11] Genevieve Pleasure: Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited to be here and to talk to you again and hang out. It's gonna be so yummy. Thank you. 

[00:00:18] Juliette Karaman: I love it. Our paths have crossed and entangled and in quite a few ways.

[00:00:25] Juliette Karaman: There's a lot of similarities. There's a lot of things in our work that we are passionate about. But I'd love to focus a little bit on you and pleasure, right? Because je n'avais pas de pleasure. Hit it there. 

[00:00:45] Genevieve Pleasure: Yeah. That's, everything, right? Here I am eight months pregnant and planning my birth, which is going to be at home and, it's so funny.

[00:00:56] Genevieve Pleasure: I was just speaking to my midwife and I was like, I think I'm just gonna, bring me into lots of orgasms and that'll be how the baby comes out. And, my midwife was like, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. Cause I, it's really, to me, this. link in our culture and it's a very revolutionary thing to say like I'm actually putting pleasure first, rest first.

[00:01:18] Genevieve Pleasure: I've been resting so much, which to me is a version of pleasure, like self pleasure sometimes is a nap, that's the same thing. And it's just, it's anti the way that I grew up. And so for me, it's a very personal thing. Being such a high achiever and learning how to rest has been big and learning how to put pleasure first has been big.

[00:01:38] Genevieve Pleasure: And then helping other people experience the full range of their expression. Like we can have so much expression. There's an artistry to our bodies that is just so exciting for me to watch, 

[00:01:51] Juliette Karaman: yeah. Self pleasure. Speed, rest, wherever. People that are here, they're like, oh, self pressure. It's we're talking about friction and quickly moving around our clit and maybe using a dildo and some tools.

[00:02:07] Juliette Karaman: It's whoa, Your body is not quite ready for that. Let's break it all the way back to what has you feel safe because without creating that safety first, you just can't even, we're numb. We can't feel. 

[00:02:24] Genevieve Pleasure: Yeah, there's a baseline that we miss, right? And as a culture, and it's, because we're just taught that sex and pleasure should be fast and go right to climax.

[00:02:34] Genevieve Pleasure: And I don't know, I don't know if I know you know how this feels, but there's, like such a delight when you're surprised by arousal you're like just resting, napping, hanging out. And all of a sudden you're like, Ooh, I'd really love to play right now. That's to me, the authentic pleasure that's way more available to us instead of okay, my partner's turned on or I'm having a self pleasure session.

[00:03:00] Genevieve Pleasure: And so I'm supposed to figure out how to get myself from zero to 60 right now. And then what happens is the body actually starts to get really tired when we do that to it over and over again. And also gets angry. The body will start to hold tension and all sorts of things. And I, know this, my body had this.

[00:03:17] Genevieve Pleasure: And so the rest piece of it, the safety is. is such an important key, that I think is really going to transform, can really transform people's sex lives and pleasure lives and all sorts of things. We're missing it, 

[00:03:35] Juliette Karaman: completely. I love that part of your arc, your orgasmic arc. It's part of, it's probably the foundation that I teach in.

[00:03:45] Juliette Karaman: Come back to your safe place or let's create your safe space, right? Because most people don't actually have that. Yeah. 

[00:03:54] Genevieve Pleasure: Yeah. Especially around sex, right? Like it's this is a women, right? Scrumptious woman podcast. There's, I see with most women, there isn't a space of you can just hang out. Like sex doesn't have to mean this performance or you're supposed to learn these things or do these things or your body's supposed to act a certain way.

[00:04:16] Genevieve Pleasure: Like pleasure and sex can literally be you sitting around, lying down, resting. And that's the baseline that I think most women didn't ever get to move through. We didn't have that initiation as teenagers, and early adulthood. And so we're like the reclamation of pleasure to me is Going back there and saying, hang on, I can actually say slow down or wait, or I'm not ready.

[00:04:43] Genevieve Pleasure: All sorts of things like that. Yeah. So I was just working with a client yesterday who was telling me that she. She gets really aroused and then they start to have sex and she feels it's like painful And so she just goes into kind of dissociation and she's you know, just waiting for it to be over she's thrilled that her partner this is a partner that's been there a very long time So for her it's like when they have sex it feels like she's winning something just the psychological aspect of that And we're still doing this that she said she just grips and holds.

[00:05:17] Genevieve Pleasure: And I started talking to them and working with them and I was like we, could actually wait longer. Like we could wait for your body to be ready. It doesn't have to be within the first five minutes. You can, there's also, and she was like, really, I don't have to just slap on lube and, Just take it.

[00:05:34] Genevieve Pleasure: And he was thrilled. He was like I don't, want her to be doing this. I just thought it was our anatomy. There's so much miseducation around this that that I think it's a lot of the work, right? It's just saying actually, you don't need that. And you do. And this is great to do. And why don't you try this?

[00:05:51] Juliette Karaman: He's winning, right? Because I was on TV a few months ago, and I had this It's a VIP couple and when I said to them, it sometimes takes 40 minutes for a woman to get aroused. 

[00:06:03] Genevieve Pleasure: Yeah. 

[00:06:04] Juliette Karaman: Penetrated. He's fuck that. I don't have time for this. And you could just see her whole body start to grit. And I just looked at them like, did you notice what happened in her body?

[00:06:16] Juliette Karaman: Yeah. He's no. And the camera, one of the camera crew was on it, of course. And I just said, here, just track that.

[00:06:25] Juliette Karaman: When we hear this over and over again time for that, that loads into the body, right? And then it like rips. Presents, creates disease, creates nice little bits that are uncomfortable. 

[00:06:40] Genevieve Pleasure: Yeah. And that's sometimes quickies and hot quick sex is hot. And like my partner and I are in a very kinky relationship and sometimes I just, it's just like five minutes before he has to go to work.

[00:06:52] Genevieve Pleasure: And then he says, good girl and leaves. But it's fantastic because I said, thank you, daddy. And he goes off to work. But it's fantastic for us because he understands that my arousal doesn't just start inside of the bedroom. And so by the time that he's, Actually doing the quickie on me, right?

[00:07:15] Genevieve Pleasure: I've been begging in my body for, hours. I've been waiting. Yeah. And so there's ways of having sex. I think a lot of people think of like normal life, right? We're just, I work mostly with people that have been together for a long time. So it's we're just taking care of the kids. We're doing the chores.

[00:07:34] Genevieve Pleasure: So they're just having normal life. And then there's like a mode they're supposed to switch into. And I'm always so curious about how can we. Just make that more like it's one big soup of pleasure. Even the taking care of the kids or the making the lunch or the whatever you're doing, the taxes, the financial talk, can it still be hot and sexy and be a part of pleasure?

[00:08:00] Genevieve Pleasure: Can you take time for you when you're Walking to the grocery store that's like really sexy so that you're you feel like you're in your pleasure all the time So that's that. I think it's one of those things we put like sex is like this thing over there No, and I always want to see it brought more into our day to day life and fuse our worlds a little bit more

[00:08:23] Juliette Karaman: And then can you walk to the grocery shop? Can you, walk, can you do your groceries and just even take a little bit of breath, maybe do a few pelvic squeezes, whatever, or sway your hips in a way like, oh, this kind of feels hot. What can you do just to have more fun with it, right?

[00:08:44] Juliette Karaman: Because it might just be throwing things in the basket really quickly. It's oh, that was fun. Or picking, putting them back up. It's that pattern interrupt of bringing more joy into your life so that you can be more present, so it's not just a monotonous. 

[00:09:00] Genevieve Pleasure: Yeah, adulthood is crazy and it's a long span of our lives, right?

[00:09:05] Genevieve Pleasure: That we're doing all the things with the to do lists and the caretaking and all the things. And so it's, because this is such a big part of our lives, it's like we have to get really strategic how we're going to make it. Not just feel like we're checking off our to do lists and trying to make our marriages stay together and all those silly things, right?

[00:09:24] Genevieve Pleasure: It's like how much more alive can we feel inside of ourselves and there's you can be so playful with it Like it's so possible to be that playful like what you said. It's great 

[00:09:35] Juliette Karaman: And I love this so you have also linked pleasure with aliveness So I got into Facebook and Instagram, jail for using sensuality and using pleasure.

[00:09:46] Juliette Karaman: So I use, I call it scrumptiousness. Yeah, it feels the same. When people are like, oh, scrumptious is usually something yummy. I'm like, it's like bypass, there's the rhythm. But it's fun. That is what it is. Right? Where can it just be more joyful? Where can it have that, life force, that qi that's moving through us.

[00:10:09] Genevieve Pleasure: Yeah. 

[00:10:09] Juliette Karaman: Already. 

[00:10:10] Genevieve Pleasure: Yeah. Yeah. And it's also I'm thinking about the birth a lot, so this is what I keep but obviously because the baby is about to come out, but I, I. Even in the moments where I know I'm going to be experiencing intense sensation, which people would say is pain, right?

[00:10:28] Genevieve Pleasure: This is my second baby, so I have an idea of how it rolls. I know that sometimes pleasure is also about meeting the edge of that, right? And finding I'm in pain today, or I feel sad today, or I, have an injury. I fell off of a New York City bus yesterday. This is wild. I know, Into people, because it's New York. It's fantastic. But I have this big round belly, and so I didn't see myself walking down the stairs, and I, and it was split second. too much to even really have that much trauma around, right? Because it was so quick. But I do remember someone pulling out their arms and I don't know if it was a man or a woman or what they look like, but they caught me.

[00:11:12] Genevieve Pleasure: So my body was like, Oh, okay. And I could rest in there. And now I have a sprained ankle, right? Which is a, not the most delightfully pleasurable experience. It's not, one that you're like, Oh, Ooh, this is what I want on a Monday. But I was, sitting with it and I was like, gosh, even in the, sitting there on the side of the street in New York city, and I was surrounded by women pregnant women, just come right over if they see you crying or doing anything.

[00:11:41] Genevieve Pleasure: I was so held and I was surrounded by women and I was sobbing and I looked at one of them and I was like, I just cry a lot. I'm in pain. Yes. But I just like to cry. And she was like, Yeah, and we just had this moment where we were like, this moment too is pleasurable. And it felt like this kumbaya circle where all of us were, I was in like eight out of ten pain, but we were all so connected around the experience because we were so present.

[00:12:11] Genevieve Pleasure: No one was trying to figure out what to do next or what I was going to do, like where I was going to go. No one was trying to ask me questions. We were just all crying and feeling, and that felt similar to how sex would feel. I know that's such a strange thing to say, but it, was a similar feeling of relief.

[00:12:30] Genevieve Pleasure: Yeah. And then when my partner came and I was like, Oh, it's like an orgy now. And now I've got 

[00:12:35] Juliette Karaman: I've 

[00:12:35] Genevieve Pleasure: got him here and all the women, like I couldn't, you could feel their bodies relaxed. Cause he was there now with his manliness and his little ice wrap and it was just such a beautiful moment.

[00:12:47] Genevieve Pleasure: And so to me, I think sometimes in pleasure teachings we think we have to be happy all the time or be in pleasure all the time. And my life is very far from that. It's not like I'm always walking around this tastes good. This feels good. This is delicious. Sometimes it's ow, Oh man, I'm sad.

[00:13:06] Genevieve Pleasure: I've got to cry. I've got to scream. And to include that in your experience of pleasure and maybe even like aliveness versus pleasure, right? That's the real sex. Like sometimes I'm having sex and I'm crying and I'm screaming. I'm not always delicious. Sometimes there's alchemy moving through me.

[00:13:27] Genevieve Pleasure: And that's I, think it's just that most of us live on this binary of good, bad, pleasure, right? And so you start to smush it all together, 

[00:13:37] Juliette Karaman: right? Very sensational. But all this very sensational might not be that pleasurable, might not be like, Oh, I like that. It's like your body is starting to defrost a little bit.

[00:13:50] Juliette Karaman: So there are all these new sensations that are coming up. You're like, Oh, I don't have a pathway for that. I don't have language for it. I don't know where to put it. I don't know if it's good or bad. And we like to box things in, right? And it's just what about we can just stay with the sensation? I remember you taking me through your pleasure challenge and I was like the demo model and you and I have played before, so I'm like, whoo, and laughing and crying and snot flying and body moving.

[00:14:25] Juliette Karaman: And I just remember Alex, my partner, looking at me, he's oh, he, knows that I respond like that, but he hadn't seen it being used just on zoom, right? Across the world. Oh, I forgot. She is that. She can feel that much. 

[00:14:44] Genevieve Pleasure: Yeah. And that's, all it is. It's just how much can we open ourselves up to feeling everything right now?

[00:14:52] Genevieve Pleasure: That's really it. I'm in 

[00:14:56] Juliette Karaman: the world at the moment and then you're pregnant and this beautiful new world in the world and really being present to what it's 

[00:15:06] Genevieve Pleasure: like. Yeah. And that's why pleasure to me is such a spiritual act. It's not like that spiritual woo, but it's I know time is always ticking and then we're very, we're mortals.

[00:15:16] Genevieve Pleasure: We're mere mortals. And I think we forget this. And to me, it's this feeling of like, when I die, how do I want to do it? Like, how do I want to have lived knowing that I'm, not going to be in this body, experiencing myself as Genevieve for eternity. That's going to, that's going to, that's going to shift.

[00:15:35] Genevieve Pleasure: And so this hard moment, this painful moment, and I think there's a misconception. I know I definitely had this at the very beginning of my career where I would look at people who seemed to be in pleasure all the time and it really looked like their life was just always amazing. Like it was like, they're at the beach, they've got all this money just stuffed away in pockets.

[00:15:53] Genevieve Pleasure: Like they've got, like they're just floating around on like Twinkies and yummy gumdrops. And I was like, I can't. I can't have a good life because my life, I can't be in pleasure. My life doesn't look like that. I'm in New York City I'm a hustler. There's a different vibe here. I was a single mother back then.

[00:16:12] Genevieve Pleasure: And I was like, hang on, maybe it's, different. Maybe it's not so much about the circumstance. And it really isn't because you and I have seen this. And our clients too, that the beauty of the work that we do is we get to go in inside of people's worlds. And they teach me so much.

[00:16:32] Genevieve Pleasure: Cause I go, Oh, you're, you seem to have everything set up for you. And, we're lacking pleasure or we're lacking gratitude or we're lacking connection. And it's such a, it's such a big reminder for me of it's. It's always just about this moment right now. How do I want to take it on? Like, how do I want to make love to it?

[00:16:53] Genevieve Pleasure: What do I want to do? 

[00:16:55] Juliette Karaman: Your first book. Fuck me open or whatever it's called. 

[00:16:59] Genevieve Pleasure: Yourself open. Yes. 

[00:17:01] Juliette Karaman: But that really reminds me of like, how can we just be Opened every time again, and again, yesterday I was taking my my mastermind and my and a membership that I have through a frequency attunement, and I've added a few things that and it's half an hour session, and people were going through the same thing.

[00:17:26] Juliette Karaman: There's a lot of safety coming up for everyone. And at the end of it, two or three of them were saying, Oh my God, that was really sexual when safety is established in the body. Pleasure starts rising or the availability, that path to, bring pleasure in all of a sudden, just a breath or just listening to someone's sound or listening to the music.

[00:17:51] Juliette Karaman: Then all of a sudden your body starts to move. It's yeah. 

[00:17:56] Genevieve Pleasure: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And to me, I look at nature and it reminds me it's the soil is what creates it. The beautiful trees and the, all the flowers without a rooted soil are not going anywhere and when I see people trying to fix relationships and fix sex and relationships, I go how comfortable do you feel to just be totally yourself with each other?

[00:18:22] Genevieve Pleasure: Can you be really, deeply safe? And a lot of the times the answer's no. So I was like, alright, then we're not even going to try to have sex right now. We're going to work on the other piece. We're going to we're going to soften into this safety. I'm doing an arousal course right now and that's the thing that I'm, that's the biggest thing is, so often I see couples that will tell me secrets that they can't, they're not telling each other.

[00:18:44] Genevieve Pleasure: And I go hang on, you're not trying to have sex with me. Go tell your wife, right? Like this is the person that you can have this safety with. And it's just having the courage and the bravery to go okay, I'm going to do this. I'm going to try to create this safe space for myself.

[00:19:01] Genevieve Pleasure: Cause often people are very willing. It's just, we're just used to these like childhood programmings. If it's not safe, I can't share This This isn't okay. And so once we start to learn, hey, let me try this. It's amazing. You usually get beautiful results. 

[00:19:16] Juliette Karaman: And the beauty is that these people, you and I both, have chosen each other.

[00:19:24] Juliette Karaman: A long time ago, they have jumped through all these hoops. They've had beautiful children together. They've ticked all the boxes. And yet, now they can't get back there, and it's 

[00:19:36] Juliette Karaman: Okay, let's take sex off the table. 

[00:19:39] Genevieve Pleasure: Exactly. Because again, it's this natural arising, right? It's not, it's like the flower blooming.

[00:19:45] Genevieve Pleasure: It's not this thing we have to get to make our relationship okay. First, we make the relationship so yummy and scrumptious, and so safe. And then from there, bloom, all of a sudden you crave your partner. It's always how it works, right? It's the beauty of that. People don't believe me, I think. It's a hard, that's a hard thing to help people with because they think, I think they think attraction is going to be like, When you're in your 20s and someone just blows your socks off and you're just like, oh my gosh.

[00:20:17] Genevieve Pleasure: And I'm like, sometimes it's like that. And also sometimes it's oh my gosh, I love you so much. I feel so myself. Let's play here. And that's an attraction. I don't think a lot of people have had an experience of, so it's, tricky to talk about it before people experience it. 

[00:20:34] Juliette Karaman: Completely. I love that you and I both came from a BDSM background and yeah, where we've actually seen.

[00:20:42] Juliette Karaman: People actually want to have the deepest intimacy and show us their secrets. Being so willing to do that and open to that. And then you get to marry people and they're just like, He, she, we're, I'm blaming you. Yeah. Oh, let's get back. Totally. 

[00:21:02] Genevieve Pleasure: Totally. Yeah. And that's, it's just we just don't talk about it.

[00:21:06] Genevieve Pleasure: It's normalized to not talk to your partners, talk to your friends instead. It's become that nowadays. And, and I think most people when they're married, most of them are lonely. Most of them wish that they had their partner as a best friend. And they, it's just the challenge of creating that, especially with wounding around masculine, feminine, and all sorts of things.

[00:21:29] Genevieve Pleasure: It's there's a lot of navigation of we're going to create this unity, even though we're both scared, even though. It's really scary to be this vulnerable. That's what, that's the sexiest thing to me. Like when I see couples doing that, I'm like, you guys are going to have the hottest sex. I'm worried about you.

[00:21:45] Genevieve Pleasure: The fact that you just cried in front of your wife about something like that's it. It's going to be so sexy. I'll just sit here and wait. 

[00:21:55] Juliette Karaman: People come to you and expect like a quick fix. They're like, give us five tips on how to have good sex. 

[00:22:02] Genevieve Pleasure: Yeah. I give them the five tips, but they're not easy tips.

[00:22:06] Genevieve Pleasure: And, the first one is to establish safety and vulnerability, like we're talking about, which for some couples takes a very long time. Some people, I can get them doing it quickly. If I infuse plant medicine, that's easier, right? Truth serums. But it's, that's the work is that, that level of yes, together.

[00:22:26] Genevieve Pleasure: And then, from there you get creative. The other thing I think couples forget is that. If you've been together for 45 years and you've seen everything with each other we get to be really creative with arousal. It's not like we're just going to be sipping tea and then all of a sudden be like, Ooh, the way he just smiled at me.

[00:22:43] Genevieve Pleasure: That's not what happens after 45 years. That's like the first couple of years the first or the first couple of months even. And so it's the creativity of role play and toys and different types of touch and change of setting and scenery and understanding your body. That's what creates the pleasure with one another.

[00:23:03] Genevieve Pleasure: It's like, how creative can y'all be instead of just waiting and going I wasn't, they're not turning me on still. So those are the first two. And honestly, most couples getting them through those first two tips is that's enough. And there's ways to make it even sexier and even more.

[00:23:17] Genevieve Pleasure: But those two are the ones I'm doing the most work around. 

[00:23:21] Juliette Karaman: Safety for me. It's creative. It's exactly the same thing. Just different words for it. 

[00:23:27] Genevieve Pleasure: Yeah. Yeah. And the reason it's important to like, Andy and I we, have sex often as like a laboratory to to, see how our days are, see how our energy is.

[00:23:41] Genevieve Pleasure: For us it's, not just like sex as a place to get to, but as like a, an exploratory lab. He comes home from work. I haven't seen him all day. And when, we're naked and it's just our bodies talking, it's like we know each other on a language that's deeper. And if he's moving through something and he stops and he needs to breathe, or if I'm moving through something and I stop, I need to breathe and I need to cry.

[00:24:05] Genevieve Pleasure: To me, I still consider that sex. And so we, we have a rule where we have time together with our bodies every, we don't go more than 24 hours, like we're very, prioritizing of our bodies because we have a million children and live in New York City and it's just, there's too much, right? And so how do we, how are we going to be married for the next 50 years?

[00:24:29] Genevieve Pleasure: For us, it's this every single day coming together in unity. And really learning each other on a level beyond the mind. And so it's us, it's not like the place to get to, it's this. I'm in a lab with you and I want to understand you more and let's see who we are today, right? 

[00:24:49] Juliette Karaman: And the beauty is that the only aim is connection.

[00:24:52] Juliette Karaman: There's penetration, no penetration. If we're just eye gazing, whatever, we're just naked together in the same space. It 

[00:25:03] Genevieve Pleasure: doesn't 

[00:25:04] Juliette Karaman: matter. We're actually connecting. 

[00:25:06] Genevieve Pleasure: Yeah. And to give everyone a tip because they're always like, how do you, we never have time. How do you do that? First really easy tip, I'm sure you say this all the time, is get off of your screens.

[00:25:17] Genevieve Pleasure: Stop watching your show every night, that could be when you're doing this. Because people think watching the show is connective, and I'm like, it's not connective, this is connective. But honestly what we do, because we have four, three children, about to have four and all are animals and our days are really busy.

[00:25:36] Genevieve Pleasure: We have an alarm set for five o'clock in the morning, which sounds ridiculous, but we know our kids are not waking up until six. They don't, they won't get up until then at the very early earliest. So we have at least an hour and sometimes the alarm goes and we just roll over and cuddle. We're like still so tired and we're just maybe there's a little bit of petting.

[00:25:55] Genevieve Pleasure: Sometimes one of us is ready to go, right? And it's so nice to have that hour and to know this is our hour and no one can disturb us. And then the sun's coming up. It's really beautiful. So easy tip for people that extra hour. of sleep. I don't, to us, it's way more worth the connection than the extra hour.

[00:26:16] Juliette Karaman: Every morning Alex and I, every day he makes me coffee and exactly the cup that I like. To be on the screen while, he drinks and I'm just watching. outside start to light up. And then we always do the New York crossword puzzle. We often shower together. It's just that connection. And it's, not sex, but it is real intimacy and being close together.

[00:26:44] Juliette Karaman: And then the questions will come up and I'll say, okay, can we now put away the screens? And just there's always two questions. Hey, what's. What's your intention for today? What do you want to bring in? How do you want to feel? And it's like a man first thing is always I'm grateful for waking up, for having the dog crawl into bed at one point when we're doing the puzzle, for you bringing the coffee and just It's actually for, me being able to receive it because when I wake up early, I'm like, I'll do it.

[00:27:16] Juliette Karaman: And he's no, I don't doing it. 

[00:27:19] Genevieve Pleasure: Yeah. And that's the ritual, right? If we're living the same adult life over and over again for decades. And we're not going to have it, right? To create that daily ritual makes it so special and so sacred and every couple can do it differently. And I just, I love yours.

[00:27:37] Genevieve Pleasure: Thank you. That was really warm to, to feel the two of you. I could imagine it. 

[00:27:42] Juliette Karaman: We change it up from time to time. It's always fun when I travel because he does everything by himself and I'm like, time zones and everything. Yeah. My darling, let me know and let the listeners know how they can get in touch with you, what's coming up in the new year.

[00:27:58] Juliette Karaman: Obviously, you're going to have baby, your second one and your fourth one together. I've got four kids, so I know exactly what that is like. We love it. 

[00:28:09] Genevieve Pleasure: Yes, so we have a if you go to orgasmicarc. com, but the O is a zero because of censorship, it's like you're using scrumptious. Zero orgasmicarc.

[00:28:20] Genevieve Pleasure: com. You'll see everything there. It's a very easy way to find all the courses and media. My books are there. Podcasts that I've done are there, but my favorite thing for people that are just starting with my work that might be resonating with how I'm speaking about things is to do the self pleasure challenge because it's very accessible, very easy.

[00:28:41] Genevieve Pleasure: So we don't it's audio only. It's just my voice. And you can do it driving a car. Like you can have dropped your kids off and you're just sitting there and you have the earbuds and it's only 15 to 20 minutes a day and it's for 10 days and then you're done. So it's super simple, super easy and you'll see that on the website.

[00:29:04] Genevieve Pleasure: It's like the first thing there but that's always my favorite go in too because it just gets you immersed in experiencing pleasure as a day to day experience instead of something that you've been Just reserved for retreats or whatever, else. Vacation, right? Yeah. 

[00:29:21] Juliette Karaman: Love it. Love it.

[00:29:22] Juliette Karaman: And I love that it's 15, 20 minutes. It's audio only. We don't have to sit on the screen, be watching stuff anymore. I think, oh, after COVID, we've come away from, yeah. Yeah. Glasses like this. It's let's actually just fit it in where it fits into my, 

[00:29:40] Genevieve Pleasure: yeah. I love there's nothing wrong with listening to me talk about your pleasure while you're walking down the street.

[00:29:47] Genevieve Pleasure: Like, why that's such a beautiful addition to your day. And then when you go pick up your kids or meet a client for lunch or something, you'll be in a different vibe. And so that's, what it's about for me, really. That's, the beauty is how do we translate this into our living, waking lives?

[00:30:05] Genevieve Pleasure: Yeah. 

[00:30:06] Juliette Karaman: Absolutely. It has been a pleasure. Have the best, beautiful birth, and I'm sure there's going to be another book that's going to be around natural orgasmic birthing. I'm sure there's a program or something coming through you because I can already feel it.

[00:30:22] Genevieve Pleasure: Yeah, we're planning on lots of media because I want women to know this, right?

[00:30:28] Genevieve Pleasure: They get to have this too.

[00:30:29] Juliette Karaman: It Contractive experience. It can be just so beautiful, which will also impact the baby, right? All right, my love, sending you so much love and thank you so much for coming on again. Thank you, honey. Bye.

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