078 Unveiling the Psychology of Rapid Transformation with Wesly Fuequay

Welcome everyone to another episode of The Scrumptious Woman! In this episode, we have the pleasure of hosting the insightful  Wesly Fuequay, a master coach and expert in psychology. Join us as we delve into the fascinating realms of coaching, psychology, and the transformative Rapid Rewire Method.

Summary:
In this episode, Juliette Karaman engages in a captivating conversation with  Wesly Fuequay, exploring his journey from being a professional ballroom dancer to becoming a master coach and professor in psychology. Wesly shares how his passion for psychology was ignited by a teenage encounter and how it eventually led him to develop the Rapid Rewire Method, a revolutionary approach to transformational coaching. He discusses the importance of de-identifying with negative beliefs and emotions, highlighting how this process can lead to lasting change and self-empowerment. Through anecdotes and insights, Prof. Fuequay and Juliette provide valuable perspectives on consciousness, emotional integration, and the power of self-awareness in personal growth.

Key Takeaways:

1. De-identification with Negative Beliefs: Prof. Fuequay emphasizes the significance of disengaging from the narrative and story surrounding negative beliefs and emotions. By de-identifying with them, individuals can liberate themselves from limiting patterns and perceptions.
2. Emotional Integration: Through the Rapid Rewire Method, Wesly facilitates emotional integration by helping individuals fully experience and replicate their emotions. This process enables them to release emotional charge and embrace a more authentic sense of self.
3. Self-Awareness and Transformation: The conversation underscores the transformative potential of self-awareness and conscious choice. By understanding the mechanisms of their thoughts and emotions, individuals can embark on a journey of profound personal transformation.
4. Pattern Recognition and Perception: Wesly explores how the brain's pattern behaviour. He explains how individuals tend to reinforce existing beliefs and associations, impacting their experiences and interactions with the world.
5. The Power of Coaching: Juliette and Wesly discuss the role of coaching in facilitating self-discovery and growth. They highlight the importance of empowering individuals to navigate their inner landscapes and cultivate resilience in the face of challenges.

In this enlightening episode, listeners gain valuable insights into the principles and practices of transformational coaching, psychology, and self-awareness. Join Juliette and  on a journey of exploration and discovery, as they uncover the keys to unlocking personal potential and living a more fulfilling life

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Transcript

The Scrumptious Woman EP78

[00:00:00] Juliette Karaman: Welcome everyone to another episode of The Scrumptious Woman and with us we have a very scrumptious man, Dr. Wesly Feuquay I always say it wrong. How do you say your last name? 

[00:00:11] Wesly Fuequay: That was pretty good. Fuequay. Yeah. 

[00:00:13] Juliette Karaman: Fuequay perfect. Perfect. Now you are a master coach but besides that you are also a professor.

[00:00:23] Wesly Fuequay: Yeah.

[00:00:24] Juliette Karaman: Do you still 

[00:00:25] Juliette Karaman: work 

[00:00:25] Juliette Karaman: as 

[00:00:25] Juliette Karaman: a professor? 

[00:00:26] Wesly Fuequay: No, not at the college any longer. No, I left there, gosh, coming up on 10 years ago now. Because I started a non profit organization after that. Wow. I still teach because I teach other practitioners how to do what we do. 

[00:00:37] Juliette Karaman: Perfect, so Wesley is a magician. Not only does he know how to explain concepts in such a way that it actually makes sense, where you're like, eh, how does this work and how does rewiring the brain actually work? Wesley kind of pulls things away and it's like that yarn, that, Ball of wool that has just been tangled up and all of a sudden it's oh, it's just one big string.

[00:01:03] Juliette Karaman: I see it. So this is what your genius is for me. 

[00:01:07] Wesly Fuequay: Thank you. Yeah, absolutely. I do. I love teaching. I love explaining things in simple ways because I think I'm a bit dense and thick when I learn them. And then by the time I finally get them, I can explain them in really simplistic terms. I am blessed that way, whether it's ballroom dancing, which is something Of course, that I've been doing for a really long time, professional ballroom dancing, or, it's this psychological content that we're into, or whatever it is that I get my mindset on, yeah.

[00:01:34] Wesly Fuequay: I love 

[00:01:34] Wesly Fuequay: explaining things. 

[00:01:35] Juliette Karaman: And it's true, I remember the salsa and the ballroom dancing, I'm like, oh my god, I don't know how to do this, how do I get my head around this? And you're like, oh! So yeah, Wesley is here too. Let's actually just dive in. How, psychology and the whole brain, how that works.

[00:01:56] Juliette Karaman: What got you into this? How did you just decide I want to learn more? Because it's so different than ballroom dancing, right? It 

[00:02:04] Wesly Fuequay: is. Ballroom dancing put me through my, my my graduate degree. So I'm grateful for that because it allowed me to fund my psychology effort. I was always, I just had a natural knack for psychology and I'll tell you a funny story I don't normally tell, but I'll make it quick.

[00:02:19] Wesly Fuequay: But when I was a teenager, I had a girlfriend and her stepdad would drive this cool car and he would get home late at night and he'd be home in the afternoon blasting Neil Diamond and like jumping on the couch and he'd mow the lawn at two in the morning and I'm like, what is up with this guy? Why does he have this?

[00:02:39] Wesly Fuequay: This free lifestyle was completely, taken by it. She goes, oh, he's a psychologist. I go, man, I got to get that gig.

[00:02:46] Juliette Karaman: The best way to get, see and get impressed. I was like, 

[00:02:49] Wesly Fuequay: whoa, that's interesting. He was always dressed nice, driving nice cars, listening to good music. He was eating good food. He was like, and he was out. I was like, I need to find out what's he's doing. Yeah. I did. I took well to psychology.

[00:03:01] Wesly Fuequay: And then when I got my master's degree, I knew I wanted to teach. And so I went into teaching and I taught introductory psychology for maybe five or six years. And then I got really interested in conscious science. And from there I learned about integral theory. And I thought, wow, this is something I want to share with my students.

[00:03:20] Wesly Fuequay: So they let me create a college course. They let me create an entire course on the psychology of consciousness and mature ego development. And. The kids were signing up for what they thought was a class on altered state. They thought, oh, surely this 30 something long haired, cool professor is going to slide us some LSD and mushrooms under the desk, this is going to be a great semester.

[00:03:41] Wesly Fuequay: Except you didn't need the drugs. Except you didn't need the drugs, which we were to find out. So I thought, oh man, how am I going to take them into these, territories of consciousness and awareness, but without using that as a portal. So that's got me on this very unique journey to learning how to evoke states of consciousness, profound states of awareness without using chemicals and compounds as the portal.

[00:04:03] Wesly Fuequay: And of course, there are thousands of ways of doing that. And we brought all that into the classroom. super popular for eight years. It was standing room only. I would have students come back and take the course and not even register it anymore for like years on end. Like it would just get, it got bigger and bigger.

[00:04:18] Wesly Fuequay: So we were really excited about that. And it was a great, it was a great time for everybody. And right toward the end of that journey I met Satyendra Raja, who introduced me to the work of Jibril Slavinsky, who is the creator of the psychological transformational methods that we use, the spiritual technology that we've trained in.

[00:04:36] Wesly Fuequay: And when I learned that, when I discovered what was possible, my mind was blown. I thought, oh my gosh This is it. This is the holy grail. This thing really exists, this applicable methodology so that people could change in real time and let it be real change, lasting change. I was like, Oh my gosh, I got to figure out what's going on.

[00:04:53] Wesly Fuequay: So that sent me on a nine year apprenticeship with Satyen, with Zivarad, with Vladimir, all these, legendary people in this, spiritual technology space. And then eventually, I think as of now, without breaking my arm to pat myself on the back, I think I'm the most accoladed person in the world right now.

[00:05:11] Wesly Fuequay: I've got a master trainer status with everyone. So yeah, so I'm a master trainer in Zivarad's work. I'm a master trainer in Vladimir's work. And of course, Safian has me as a master trainer for accelerated evolution, right? So I'm pretty proud of that. That was a really remarkable achievement for me, after nine years.

[00:05:30] Wesly Fuequay: And then shortly thereafter, Zivrad passed away complications of a stroke and that's only left a handful of us who are active in the world now who were, given the training to train other trainers. So the most exciting thing that I get to do is to train other people how to do this work and how to do what we know is possible.

[00:05:49] Wesly Fuequay: So I love doing that. I've got a roster of private clients, but I really love training people. 

[00:05:53] Juliette Karaman: And really the teacher in you, I can feel the passion that you need to train other people that you want also. What it really feels is trainer of the trainer. And then that took a few years to get there, right?

[00:06:05] Juliette Karaman: Nine years. A lot of hours of dedication and processing people and being with people and processing yourself and getting processed yourself. So that, first of all, chapeau to that, definitely. But then also how you are teaching it to other, to coaches, to therapists, to hypnotherapists, psychologists.

[00:06:27] Juliette Karaman: How they can use these tools in their toolbox. And that's where I see your brilliance. Yeah, 

[00:06:36] Wesly Fuequay: that's the most enlightening thing that I get to do. Because I think it's wonderful to give somebody a session, and that one to one moment is obviously impactful for them, it's impactful for me, and it's really important.

[00:06:48] Wesly Fuequay: But that one to many, where we get to empower other people, To give those one to one experiences to even more people. That's what lights me up because I want this to stand and be its own legitimate therapeutic modality over this next century. I really want to validate it so that people understand why this is a very real thing and that stress and turmoil are something that can be optional when we're faced with adversity.

[00:07:13] Wesly Fuequay: I think that's the most important thing. It's like adversity is not going to stop and our problems are going to stop, but our reaction to those can be mitigated very quickly. And then when we do that we center back into self, we get right again, and then we can approach whatever it is that we're dealing with all of us.

[00:07:29] Wesly Fuequay: It's like all of our faculties. Our entire heart and mind are like online to deal with that thing. And I want to, I want people to know that, yeah. So that's exciting for me. So I think the way to do that is to empower as many professionals as we can 

[00:07:43] Juliette Karaman: to help others. So it doesn't become a little thing anymore, but it just becomes almost like a movement.

[00:07:49] Juliette Karaman: And it's so true. It's. Yeah, we're always going to have heartbreak, and we're always going to have grief, and we're going to have everything, but it's how do we respond to it? How do we deal with it, right? And there are so many different modalities out there, and I've just noticed like all of that is just, there's so much interference.

[00:08:09] Juliette Karaman: There's so much energetic interference to our true self. And I know what you do, and it's called the Rapid Rewire Method, right? What you do is just bringing people back to themselves.

[00:08:24] Juliette Karaman: Could you give our listeners a little example of just how easy and how quick the processes are? Yeah, sure. So I think the key is that when we ask someone to bring us a problem or a negative experience or a barrier to a goal or, a disturbing negative belief that they have. The one thing that we do, I think it's very effective in what gets us the results and why we get the results we get is we say, okay, thank you.

[00:08:55] Wesly Fuequay: I understand the situation now, just tell me your emotional reaction to it. And that's all we do. And what that leaves out is the narrative and the story that they have about that thing. Yeah. And I think that's the number one step that starts to make everything different is we don't engage the narrative and the story because that perpetuates the emotional charge.

[00:09:15] Wesly Fuequay: It just makes it build up. more. From there, it's just a matter of applying a procedure to let them de identify with that problem. And there's lots of ways that we do that. My gosh, Juliet, we probably have 24 that we got trained in. And I've been studying recently and found like another dozen, that I've been tinkering with.

[00:09:34] Wesly Fuequay: So we have lots of ways in which we can unpack it, but it really just, it's some procedure of letting them move further away from that emotional charge where they're no longer feeling like that thing is them. It's a part of them, but it's not them. And that place, through that, whatever procedure we use, 

[00:09:53] Juliette Karaman: that place is liberating.

[00:09:54] Juliette Karaman: For a moment, it's part of them, but it's not the totality of them, right? And this is, I just want to like, bring that back to that. 

[00:10:06] Wesly Fuequay: Yeah. And that's that state of liberation is going, Oh, I understand. That's a part of me, but that's not me. They've healthily de identified with it, which is different than disassociating from it.

[00:10:20] Juliette Karaman: Because 

[00:10:20] Wesly Fuequay: de identifying with it is just really transcending it, but including it. It's still there. It's a thing. It's real. But they don't have to use that to define themselves, or what they're doing, or where they're going. They could just simply be themselves. And yes, that's a part of me, but that's not me.

[00:10:36] Wesly Fuequay: And we just are able to use those procedures, And manipulate some psychological principles in a really easy way that just let people let go of 

[00:10:44] Juliette Karaman: it. Isn't it incredible, right? 

[00:10:46] Wesly Fuequay: And it just works every time reliably. 

[00:10:49] Juliette Karaman: It does. And every time I've used all the tools that, I've learned with you as a master coach as well.

[00:10:56] Juliette Karaman: And with Sachin. And added my own little things to them and the hypnotherapy and all the other stuff that I've, it's been 55 years and I've been learning and putting stuff in as well. So you always make stuff your own, right? It's just everyone has a change. Every 

[00:11:12] Wesly Fuequay: time. Every 

[00:11:12] Juliette Karaman: time.

[00:11:14] Juliette Karaman: And it's every time. And depend, but I also recognize there's a big but, how long does it change? How long does it actually stay? And I've noticed with my clients and with the coaches and the therapists that I coach, it's unless we actually take action, it's like doing another plant medicine ceremony or doing another hypnotherapy with a actually taking action.

[00:11:45] Wesly Fuequay: Key, key to that. Thank goodness in the protocols, and this is something that Satya needs to be celebrated for. I think he really is the one that created and understood the importance of those integration questions, which at least primes a person to take some action. Where they have to take a moment and say, okay, how can I ground and embody this experience and understand that it's directly mine?

[00:12:07] Wesly Fuequay: That the magic didn't come from Juliet, the magic didn't come from Wesley or whoever, but I had the experience. And then thank God those integration questions are there, because they at least primed the pump to begin setting the stage. Because the very last integration question is, What's something you feel like you can do now that you couldn't do before?

[00:12:26] Wesly Fuequay: How do you want to, how do you want to embody this awareness today, that you had? So we at least get them going in that direction. And yes, it's critical. Of course, I have to apply it. I will speak to one small thing though, because this does come up a lot in questions. And of course, you know this, but the state we go into it, that will fade, right?

[00:12:45] Wesly Fuequay: It goes to tiredness or hunger or arousal or excitement or. Whatever, right? So that, that peak moment, right? That mountain peak moment that we take people through, or that little P E K through the curtain moment, that tends to fade. But whatever they integrated stays permanent. Even if they don't activate it, like we're talking about.

[00:13:08] Wesly Fuequay: That integrative moment where they saw the reality between two things, or that despair transformed into hope or something like that neural connection stayed permanent, 

[00:13:21] Juliette Karaman: right? 

[00:13:22] Wesly Fuequay: And we know that because it doesn't take them as long to remember it as it did to make the first connection in the first place.

[00:13:28] Juliette Karaman: Yes. 

[00:13:29] Wesly Fuequay: If they had absolutely forgotten it. Like it was gone from memory somehow, then, the hour of the session would take an hour to remind them, but really you can remind them in a matter of moments. It's still there, and they have to activate it. What I can tell people is the states are temporary, but, The integrations are permanent.

[00:13:48] Juliette Karaman: And that's a beautiful way of putting it. The states, the oneness state, where either Dr. Joe Dispenza, or these methods, or with whatever else you take, that is not permanent. That moves. That's not permanent. That comes and goes. But you rewire it, you really We create those neural pathways. And that's what I've noticed.

[00:14:11] Juliette Karaman: The more people do these processes, and the more that we get back to that oneness state, it's really easy to activate that again. And I know that, in the protocols, we're quite strict on what to say, it's almost like you can start skipping Like skipping stones really quickly, and you go up really quickly, and then it's oh, I'm here.

[00:14:36] Juliette Karaman: I recognize that. 

[00:14:38] Wesly Fuequay: Yeah, and after you do enough of them, you start going, you know what, I come back to this same place every time. And you start to then truly, Except that is the real state. Because you keep going, oh I recognize it here. 

[00:14:51] Juliette Karaman: Yeah, unless you want to, yeah, keep on giving yourself some difficulty.

[00:14:55] Juliette Karaman: You keep coming back to it, it's only to butt your head going, oh my god. But this is human people, right? It's it's, We don't have enough money. If only I had the right relationship. If only I was thinner. If only blah blah blah blah blah I had a better job. And it's those are all the outside stuff.

[00:15:15] Juliette Karaman: What is actually, how is that affecting you? And I love that's what you really focus on, because that takes away part of, complete? The complete story. It's not she did this to me and I, you don't know the backstory. 

[00:15:27] Wesly Fuequay: Yeah, it's because story has in it I guess you could, I've never said it this way, but story has in it a character, which you and I would call an identity.

[00:15:35] Wesly Fuequay: And then the story has to validate that identity. So we're adding and deleting information to make it seem a particular way, because I gotta, I have to present myself either as the victim or the victor or, whatever, right? And all that stuff makes it worse. And so when we come in, I think how we surprise clients is we're not interested in all that narrative that's built around it.

[00:15:59] Wesly Fuequay: We're not even, we're not even really interested in the history. We're just like, where does it hurt? Okay, how do you want to feel? And then we're like off to the races, like getting them to feel that place that we know is possible for them. 

[00:16:13] Juliette Karaman: It's beautiful. Integrating identities or actually losing identities, points of view, all the ways that we are stuck in a certain identity, in a certain way of thinking, in a certain energy pattern that might not even be ours.

[00:16:31] Juliette Karaman: And just slowly. Taking all of those away. 

[00:16:36] Wesly Fuequay: That's exactly what it is.

[00:16:37] Juliette Karaman: Now you say something really interesting about and I'm trying to remember. It's called the reticular something. When you, it's some part in our brains. So say I'm pregnant and then I'll see pregnant woman everywhere. I'll see babies everywhere. You're grieving, you've miscarried and all of a sudden you'll see babies everywhere.

[00:16:59] Juliette Karaman: Explain a little bit how that works. I'm going to go into your. Oh my 

[00:17:03] Wesly Fuequay: gosh, I'm trying to remember what that example was, like, I 

[00:17:10] Juliette Karaman: don't remember it either. 

[00:17:11] Wesly Fuequay: Is that the example? Is that the example that we had used? Was it?

[00:17:16] Wesly Fuequay: That just sounds like pattern recognition to me, but I'm wondering if you're probably asking about something else like when we talk about mirror neurons or something like that, or? 

[00:17:23] Juliette Karaman: It's so why does the brain do that, right? So how say, okay, I've been pregnant, miscarried, and all of a sudden I see baby.

[00:17:32] Juliette Karaman: Woman with strollers everywhere, and that pain of losing my baby gets re inactivated, and everywhere I look, I see it again. So how does, how do our brains play tricks on us? Yeah, we're 

[00:17:46] Wesly Fuequay: making associations, right? And and you have to remember that whatever we put our attention on we tend to create, so I don't quite mean that in a manifesting way at the moment, but we have very selective attention, and so yes you buy a new VW Beetle and the next thing you know, like everybody was driving a Beetle because suddenly you've moved your attention to that thing, right?

[00:18:09] Wesly Fuequay: And what can happen is for both successes and failures. If we're focusing on a particular part of us that didn't succeed at something, now we're going to start seeing it everywhere. It's I'll notice. Oh, wow. That there's some death bunnies over there in the corner. Now the sink isn't clean.

[00:18:29] Wesly Fuequay: Now there's spots on the mirror. Now I realize that the dishes didn't get done. It's your brain wants to follow that. That 

[00:18:35] Juliette Karaman: train. I was going to say a train. That 

[00:18:38] Wesly Fuequay: train. It wants to follow that train because it's like a, it's like a series of linked associations. Yes. And then unfortunately, and this is where things get a bit tricky, there is an odd reinforcement in the recognition of the pattern.

[00:18:53] Juliette Karaman: . So there's a little bit of the brain's got a little bit of a self-congratulatory, tiny hit of dopamine because you're like, I found that one, I found one often. And it can happen for positive things, but it can also happen for things that are negative. And so we have these chains of association and we follow them, and if you have a predisposed belief of I know I'm a messy person or, I don't know what the situation would be for the person who lost a child, but, you, you've got, again, there's an identity behind that, right?

[00:19:24] Wesly Fuequay: And so if you're looking to confirm this part of you, you'll use all that evidence to confirm that disturbing belief, right? 

[00:19:34] Juliette Karaman: Isn't that what life is about? We constantly try to pull in everything that kind of shows us that we're right, that we're broken, that we need to be fixed, that we need someone else to rescue us, or we need some healer, like you said, you really want to make sure that they understand that it's not you creating your magic, or I'm creating my magic, because a lot of people will say after that, it's What the hell was that?

[00:19:59] Juliette Karaman: You like, oh my god, you used your energy and everything, my body was moving, and I add a few other things to it, but it's I don't know, I didn't do anything, I just helped you take away all those identities and all the associations that you brought with it. 

[00:20:15] Wesly Fuequay: Yeah, so hopefully we can catch people in a moment and bring them some self awareness to that can be what's happening, right?

[00:20:22] Wesly Fuequay: By pulling them away from that state, when they de identify with it, they can see it with a more panoramic vision. It's got more heart in it, right? It's a place that has more compassion. So when we look back at those parts of ourselves and go, Oh, I see what I was up to there. 

[00:20:39] Juliette Karaman: Now for the people listening, what are, and they're like having trouble not understanding that, but it's yeah, this is really cool, but can you just give me an example of how does this work?

[00:20:49] Juliette Karaman: How can I actually use this in my life? 

[00:20:52] Wesly Fuequay: They'd have to go through it. I can take you through something if you want me to. We do it that way, but I think what they would need to understand is that we've got to identify an emotion because an emotion can change, but the situation cannot.

[00:21:06] Juliette Karaman: Yes. 

[00:21:06] Wesly Fuequay: So if there's like something behind our curtain, it's that we understand that the emotion can shift and change and that eventually it can be let go of, but your situation is going to remain what it is. So we're changing how we feel and how we react to and our responses to and our relationship with the situation.

[00:21:25] Wesly Fuequay: We're going to be in a different frame of mind and perspective when we're done. Then we're going to say, okay, from that emotion, I want you to experience it. And that's also very important 

[00:21:36] Juliette Karaman: because 

[00:21:36] Wesly Fuequay: when we experience something, then we can let it go. So the more fully we can experience it, and there's four elements of experience.

[00:21:45] Wesly Fuequay: Thank you. Which are, there's an image that goes with it, there's a thought that we have about it, there's an emotion that we feel, and then there's this subsequent body sensation that's also there, right? And the more we can duplicate those elements, of how we feel and we can let it go 

[00:22:04] Juliette Karaman: and 

[00:22:04] Wesly Fuequay: maybe I'll pause right there for a second.

[00:22:06] Wesly Fuequay: So that's like the mechanism and it goes by a bunch of different names. But basically if we copy something, if we replicate it, if we duplicate it, then every time we do that, a little bit of the energy will come away from it. In our talk, we say the emotional charge is drained, but I can give you an example if I told you a really funny joke, and we had a great laugh, right?

[00:22:33] Wesly Fuequay: We'd be like, haha, that was a funny joke, and we're just on the floor laughing. It's a great joke. So we have this fight now, positive emotional sense of joy and happiness, right? Now that's just as much emotional charge as this positive emotional charge. But if I come back and I tell you the exact same joke tomorrow, it's a little less funny, and you're like, that was a good one.

[00:22:54] Wesly Fuequay: That was a good joke. We had a good time with that. It came down a little. If I tell you on the third day, you're like, That was a funny joke, but now you gotta tell me a new one. So every time I duplicate the joke, it's becoming less funny than it was the first time. So by duplicating it, the energy is coming outta 

[00:23:13] Juliette Karaman: it.

[00:23:13] Wesly Fuequay: Right now for people listening to podcasts who are old enough to remember when we were using photocopiers , you couldn't make a copy of a copy. Of a copy because it would get fainter. If you had enough paper and ink, if you did that for a couple thousand copies, it would go back to being a white piece of paper again.

[00:23:32] Wesly Fuequay: So every time we duplicate something, we're taking, right? Every time we copy something, there's a little bit of a degradation. So we've turned that idea over to emotions. And so when we duplicate the emotion or we duplicate the thought, any element of it, then the emotional charge comes out of it.

[00:23:50] Wesly Fuequay: So we do that in some sort of alternating stair steppy kind of way for most of the protocols. And then there comes a point where we've drained enough of it, where when we give the instruction, is there anything else there? A person says, no, there's no more things. They'll say there's nothing. Nothing means no thing.

[00:24:10] Wesly Fuequay: There's no more things coming up. It's aha, okay, good. Now go into that place of your awareness. And when you're there, you're in a witness consciousness. When you're there, it's blissfully silent. It's even better than meditative, and in that place, you can access the feeling of yourself. And when you are just you, then nothing else is coming up.

[00:24:33] Wesly Fuequay: You're just you. And you feel empowered and you feel right and you feel at home and there's nothing contrary coming. And in that moment, what we do, I think that's very genius. We say, okay, now that's pretty fancy, but now use that place and look back where you came from. How does the problem look from here?

[00:24:54] Wesly Fuequay: And then negatively, Everyone will always report it's not there, or it seems silly, or it's smaller now, or now I understand what it's meaning was, or I can let it go they will have truly separated from it. And so that's what happens in a process. There's lots of different ways that we do that, but that's pretty much what happens.

[00:25:12] Wesly Fuequay: So you're moving into this place where, ah, nothing contrary comes up. I can just be myself here. I'm just business. And that's a place of wisdom, that's a place of an open heart. 

[00:25:24] Juliette Karaman: And then we all know that the energy of the heart actually pulls things to us, right? And then all of a sudden get things, that's when a manifestation, if we want to call it that, happens.

[00:25:35] Juliette Karaman: But that's when all of a sudden, almost like miracles occur, right? Yeah, totally. 

[00:25:41] Wesly Fuequay: And then I think another cool thing is that, okay, so I was describing what happened Wednesday. We all had the imagination. I was guiding that person to that place. But what you and I understand, I think, the unique feature of what we've been shown is if, It's already cool enough that you can be guided there by another person, but to add on the information that you can take yourself there without someone guiding you there, that's like miracle territory, right?

[00:26:09] Wesly Fuequay: It'd be one thing to know, oh, this skilled person can take you to this, very rare place of awareness, but like you can take yourself there and it takes 12 minutes whoa. And there's no difference between the there of whether you got your. So they're on your own or whether the person took you the place is still the same.

[00:26:28] Juliette Karaman: That's incredible it is really getting back to that place of oneness And I know a lot of people that meditate get there and a lot of dr Jill stuff gets there and a lot of other people other methods but I've rarely seen anything that is as quick as this and that we can just You 

[00:26:48] Wesly Fuequay: Get 

[00:26:48] Juliette Karaman: rid of the story.

[00:26:50] Juliette Karaman: Just get rid of everything. And the funny thing is this whole method of duplication, I was talking to someone who asked me about my date rape recently and I've been very vocal about it. I have always understood, don't know how, but always known that if I had fear of something, I needed to go back and do that.

[00:27:11] Juliette Karaman: So massively afraid of heights. So I went skydiving jumped out of other things, the parachute paragliding, all of that. So when I remembered that, I got date raped, which of course took me 20 years to re remember, because my body and psyche protected me from that. I knew that I needed to reenact that moment, and I hired a doctor to do it.

[00:27:38] Juliette Karaman: And with four other men, we reenacted it, gave it a different ending, and yeah, and then I was like, oh, okay, so that's something that happened to me. 

[00:27:49] Wesly Fuequay: And you can talk about it in a very matter of fact way. 

[00:27:53] Juliette Karaman: Yeah, and 

[00:27:54] Wesly Fuequay: there's no more charge in it. 

[00:27:55] Juliette Karaman: I'm not terrified by it, but the moment that I found out about it, that I remembered because my body remembered, right?

[00:28:02] Juliette Karaman: I got flogged and all of a sudden my body started shaking and actually completing that trauma cycle like we see animals do. I was like, Ooh, and so much. Tears and everything came out, and thank God the person that was doing this was very trauma informed. But it's okay, so duplication has always been around.

[00:28:22] Juliette Karaman: We've all subconsciously known about it. This is just a very Robust way of doing it. Yeah. She doesn't need such extreme ways that I do it. And I did it . 

[00:28:37] Wesly Fuequay: You remind me. Maybe I should tell my, my, my famous bunny rabbit story. So I live here in the southwest and we have all manner of critters everywhere.

[00:28:48] Wesly Fuequay: We have predators and we have, right. And on any given day in my neighborhood, I've got coyotes, bobcats. Owls, all man, rattlesnakes, all these things. And they're out at dusk and dawn and they're looking for dinner. And dinner is often, small ground animals. And we have these little cottontail bunny rabbits everywhere.

[00:29:09] Wesly Fuequay: Now I know darn good and this is a food source for every one of those animals that I've talked about. But when I go out every morning, there's the little cottontail bunny rabbits, cute as can be. And I know that they got chased last night, but then every morning they're back out there being running around.

[00:29:25] Wesly Fuequay: And it begs the question, why don't the bunny rabbits get PTSD? Why don't they just go in the hole and go, I ain't going out there this morning. I barely got out with my cottontail intact last night. It's why isn't that happening? And you mentioned this, which is what reminded me of it.

[00:29:40] Wesly Fuequay: Animals will have this post stress response. They'll shake, they'll convulse, they'll breathe, they'll go catatonic, right? They'll let it move through their nervous system and it'll happen for a couple minutes and in the moment it's done, they just get right back up and go back to being the bunny rabbit again.

[00:30:02] Wesly Fuequay: Right back to being a deer again or whatever, right? And I think humans, because we have to keep a certain kind of composure, we don't let ourselves do this. For all sorts of reasons, I was witness to a car accident a week ago and I was helping the people at the scene and, unfortunately we have to get out of our car and go, are you okay?

[00:30:24] Wesly Fuequay: And then you have insurance and then I have to get your information. We have to call the authorities. It's have to, there's a pressure to keep it together, but the lady who got. impacted. She was completely frozen for five minutes. I was like knocking on the window. I want to make sure she's okay.

[00:30:40] Wesly Fuequay: But in a moment of body wisdom, I think she was just allowing herself to just have that moment of freeze, and when she finally came to and she was interacting with us, it was better, but if we would allow ourselves to go through whatever that convulsive moment is, whatever that, shaky moment is.

[00:31:03] Wesly Fuequay: I don't think we would develop the trauma. response that we're so familiar with. 

[00:31:08] Juliette Karaman: Isn't it interesting, right? So I had a hip operation about exactly five weeks ago. And two days afterwards I thought I'll come back the same day, yeah, no, not at all. My body was like, no, you're staying in hospital a bit longer.

[00:31:25] Juliette Karaman: Anyway, so two days afterwards, Alex my fiancee brought me back. And I was trying to get into bed, and all of a sudden my body started shaking, my, my jaw was clenching, and it was just going wild, and he's just oh, this is pretty intense. Also, I'd had really low blood pressure, so he's are you gonna faint?

[00:31:45] Juliette Karaman: I'm like, no, I'm not fainting, it's not low blood pressure, just, my body is just convulsing, it's just going through it, so I'm just gonna let it. So he was okay with it. When my daughters saw me, they were, they completely freaked out. It's mommy, you're shaking and everything is just moving and you're rattling.

[00:32:03] Juliette Karaman: I'm like, yeah, baby. So they now, I've seen it several times and they're actually aware of when it happens to them as well now and they don't stop it. Anymore. And they just let it go, and then within a few minutes, it's back to normal. Ah! It's just such a good way when we really start becoming aware of what our body can do, what our psyche can do, and how we can get back to that state of oneness.

[00:32:29] Juliette Karaman: Wesley, tell me, how can people get in contact with you? What do you do? How are the, how do the courses work? Tell us a bit about it. 

[00:32:37] Wesly Fuequay: Yeah, okay, cool. So anybody who wants to be trained, they can go to rapidrewiremethod. com and there's information there about trainings and we train not only for practitioners and coaches who want to use it professionally, but we can also train people for personal use.

[00:32:51] Wesly Fuequay: They can check that out. And then if anybody was wanting personal sessions for any reason, they could go to just wesleyfupoy. com and my contact information is there. There's a place to send me an email and I'll get back to everybody. Set up a. I'll call with them and find out how I can help them in the best way possible.

[00:33:08] Juliette Karaman: Perfect. I love this. And tell me about the Rapid Rewire method. How long do you, is it a course that they take? Is it online? Is it in person? 

[00:33:19] Wesly Fuequay: Yeah. So we're going to have live trainings again in 2025. So this year we got a, It's not, I don't want, I dare say it's an online platform because of how we've done it, but we've done seven of these trainings live.

[00:33:32] Wesly Fuequay: And so we had enough information where we were able to put together like an online learning portal where they watch the previous trainings. However, we have a live support call every single week. So they have me come on and I'm troubleshooting, answering questions, taking them through protocols. So they still get me live every single week, but they're just learning the basic content from the online program that's there.

[00:33:55] Wesly Fuequay: Right now when they sign up they get this sort of blended learning experience where they get to witness the demonstrations and the talks from the previous trainings and they get to do that, self paced. And then there's a weekly check in call and I'm actually there and helping them, up level that skill or answer those questions or help them through whatever.

[00:34:16] Wesly Fuequay: They also have exchange partners with other people in the program, so they're getting to work through anything that they want to work through because they have so many hours of exchange time that they need to help too. So they're getting to not only receive process, but give process to their colleagues.

[00:34:30] Wesly Fuequay: And then sometimes, they're getting a group process when they're on with me. However, in 2025, we'll be in the beautiful mountains of Colorado, and we'll be at a place called the Star House, and our live training will resume what, two live dates in 2025 in Colorado. 

[00:34:45] Juliette Karaman: How super cool. So people can start already online with you, but if they then want to also come to an in person training, that can be a great 

[00:34:53] Wesly Fuequay: thing.

[00:34:53] Wesly Fuequay: Yeah, we're trying to make a way where we can have some open enrolment so that people didn't have to wait for a date. 

[00:34:59] Juliette Karaman: Because it's long otherwise having to wait for, for another year, right? 

[00:35:03] Wesly Fuequay: I know it is. Yeah. Especially when you're excited to learn, like you just want to get going, so we have both now.

[00:35:08] Wesly Fuequay: Love it. Yeah, they can check that out. 

[00:35:11] Juliette Karaman: It has been a delight. Thank you so much for being on. 

[00:35:14] Wesly Fuequay: My sweet pleasure. Thank you for having me. It's great.